Terrorism, Fascism, Nativism - what's the difference and who, like, cares?

The big hullabaloo over Beinart's article continues.

Here is the original article:

Beinart:"A FIGHTING FAITH"
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=whKP5U%2BbbaxbirV9FQhQuh%3D%3D

Noam Sheiber responds:
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=scheiber12060


Readers also respond:
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=letters&s=beinart120704


Matt Yglesias has something to say:
http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/12/how_big_a_deal_.html
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2004/12/index.html#004938
http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/12/missing_nationa.html

So does Kevin Drum:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_12/005251.php
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_12/005266.php

Orcinus also takes on the Beinart editorial, the best and longest comment of them all:
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/

Publius continues:
http://lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#11020473496700150 http://lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#110238575558358798

I like what Julie Saltman wrote:
http://saltman.blogspot.com/2004_11_28_saltman_archive.html#110209750829363952
http://saltman.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_saltman_archive.html#110234848704178687

...as well as Atrios of Eschaton:
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_atrios_archive.html#11023557756035427
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_atrios_archive.html#110234751293873017
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_atrios_archive.html#110234334457499075

...and of course, Lindsay Beyerstein:
http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2004/12/afghanistan_and.html

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Brian Leiter has a couple of good posts:

The truth about war
http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2004/12/the_truth_about_1.html

New Blog Featuring Leading Moral and Political Philosophers
http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2004/12/new_blog_featur.html

"Living under Fascism"
http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2004/12/living_under_fa_3.html

This last one is also covered here:

Evolutionary Theology
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_digbysblog_archive.html#110226934277166780

...and here:

Five characteristics of fundamentalists
http://eastethnia.blogspot.com/2004/12/five-characteristics-of.html


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David Brin has posted on his blog:

The Real Culture War
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2004/12/real-culture-war.html

...linking to his article:

The Real Culture War
Part One: Defining the Battleground
http://www.davidbrin.com/realculturewar1.html

Part Two: Fighting for the Enlightenment
http://www.davidbrin.com/realculturewar2.html

It is long and thoughtful. I do not agree 100%. I wish I had time to write a long post in response, but I have written about this before, in many posts, e.g.,
http://sciencepolitics.blogspot.com/2004/11/two-americas-past-present-and-future.html

Part of Brin's second page of the article covers the same topic as this publius post:

FEAR THE MEDIAN VOTER
http://lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#110230883405390050

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In response to this:

Baby Gap
http://sciencepolitics.blogspot.com/2004/11/baby-gap.html

....I get this:

The New Red-Diaper Babies
http://nytimes.com/2004/12/07/opinion/07brooks.html?hp

Well, both Brooks and I are amateur pop-sociologists. That is where the likeness ends. He is on the Right, I am right. And he gets paid for his stuff while I'm happy with 30 daily hits on this blog.

Others have responded more ferociously:

http://averyspecialblog.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-like-pretending-that-because-i-can.html

http://omnium.blogdrive.com/archive/159.html

http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2004/12/index.html#004960

http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2004/12/david_brooks_is.html


Update:
Some more good and some excellent blogging on Brooks and Seiler:


http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/good_slapdown_of_a_scientific_racist/

http://desperado-list.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_desperado-list_archive.html#110255703086512979

http://anselpixel.blogspot.com/2004/12/david-brooks-total-waste-of-ink.html

http://anselpixel.blogspot.com/2004/12/more-on-brooks-idiotic-natalism.html

http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2004/12/ewwwwww.html

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412080001

http://respectfulofotters.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_respectfulofotters_archive.html#110248074538928223

http://wingtips04.blogspot.com/2004/12/white-red-diaper-babies.html

http://averyspecialblog.blogspot.com/2004/12/david-brooks-is-even-worse-than-i.html

http://www.intheagora.com/archives/2004/12/fertility.html

http://mikethemadbiologist.blogspot.com/2004/12/david-brooks-is-jackass.html

http://suburbanguerrilla.blogspot.com/2004/12/best-conservatism-has-to-offerim-torn.html

http://saltman.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_saltman_archive.html#110247063759984213

http://www.beta57.com/wordpress/index.php?p=26

http://averyspecialblog.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-have-no-idea-what-im-talking-about.html

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2004/12/scratch_pad.html

http://intespero.blogspot.com/2004/12/neo-natalism.html

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2004/12/scariest-theory-yet-about-bush-victory.html

...and from the other side:

http://godsman.blogspot.com/2004/12/mommy-where-do-republicans-come-from.html

http://clivedavis.blogspot.com/2004/12/bigger-better-master-trend-spotter.html

Update 2:


http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/sailer_fans_meet_rivka/

http://foreigndispatches.typepad.com/dispatches/2004/12/stick_a_fork_in.html

http://suburbanguerrilla.blogspot.com/2004/12/best-conservatism-has-to-offerim-torn.html

http://mangans.blogspot.com/2004/12/heres-one-for-steve-sailer-according.html

http://cheznadezhda.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2004/12/7/200039.html

http://journals.aol.com/bmiller224/OldHickorysWeblog/entries/2280

http://premature-terminal-delivery.blogspot.com/2004/12/make-it-legal-to-do-it-more.html

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_atrios_archive.html#110251924961346780

http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2004/12/leave-it-to-bobo.html

http://politicalspectrum.blogspot.com/2004/12/paleoidiots.html

http://lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#110265771209515291

http://saltman.blogspot.com/2004_12_05_saltman_archive.html#110273784372504543

...and the best for last:

Red Values and Faust's Bargain
http://tianews.blogspot.com/2004/12/red-values-and-fausts-bargain.html